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I'm listening to A Tiny Homestead, the podcast comprised entirely of conversations with homesteaders, cottage food producers, and crafters.  I'm your host, Mary Lewis. Today I'm talking with Ashley at H &H Homestead in Texas. Good morning, Ashley. How are you? Good. How are you?  I'm good. I haven't actually recorded an episode for A Tiny Homestead  in over a week because people have been busy.  Oh, it is that time, especially down here. And we're planting everything.

00:28
We've had some stuff going for weeks, so I can imagine everybody's kind of  really getting into it right now. Yeah, it's that time of year and I go through the same thing in the fall when everybody's harvesting  and I go through the same thing at Christmas and New Year's because everybody's busy with family. Oh, for sure. So I'm very happy you had time to talk with me today. Yeah, absolutely. How is the weather in Texas this morning?

00:53
It is so sunny and nice. I went out and watered everything as early as I possibly could because I know we're supposed to get to 100 today. So I wanted to make sure, you know, I was out there before it got super hot. Oh, I was cringing at the fact that we're supposed to have like 84 for a high on Friday. 100 would kill me right now. See, you're in Minnesota, right? Yes. Yeah, I just I feel you just you just acclimate to where you are because I used to.

01:20
I mean, I've been to Minnesota several times. I used to live in Alaska and I am such a warm weather person now. I just, I really don't like being cold. So it's like, you just get used to where you're at and then,  you know, go to somewhere opposite and it really throws you. Uh-huh. I would rather,  this is going to sound really stupid because I do not enjoy deep winter, but I would rather deal with cold because I can throw on more layers of clothes.  If it's hot, I can't get any more naked than naked.

01:50
Just extra fans, extra fans. I have her, like not even just the cold. I have not had to shovel snow in years and I love that. Yep. One of the things I used to do when I was a kid, cause I grew up in Maine and Maine is very, very, very humid in July and August. And I would get, I would get headaches when it was hot. And so I would, I would literally come in the house,  go on the bathroom, strip down, get in a cold, cold, cold shower. Yeah. So that my hair was wet.

02:19
And then I would dry my hair just enough so that it wasn't dripping. And that cold hair on my neck would keep me cooler. Yeah. Yeah, that's smart. But I just, hate being hot. Hot is my least favorite state of being. Well, see, there has to be, you know, opposites in people. Otherwise we'd all be in Minnesota or we'd all be in Texas. So it's a good thing that there's a mix. It would be a very boring world if everybody was the same. Yes. And my podcast would put people to sleep.

02:49
So,  all right, so why is it H and H Homestead? Well, so our last name is Huff.  so  there's two of us, me my husband, but then our boys names are also both start with H. So either way you look at it, there's just H's all around. So we went with H and H. Oh, I love it. That's amazing. That's great. And like way to be original, mom.  Well, you know, I had to keep with the, you know, I don't know,  R being our last name.

03:18
Hough or, you know, Hank and Hogan Hough. And then they have the same middle initial as well. So everyone's got the same, you know, just that way everything stays the same. You don't get one thing personalized. Technically it goes for everybody, you know. Fabulous. That's really great.  So what do you do at H &H Homestead? A little bit of everything. So we're kind of new to this. So

03:40
And I blame my oldest son for getting us started in this because he brought home the chickens from his first grade class. And this is kind of what started the whole thing is, um, his first grade class hatched these chickens for, you know, studying the, life cycle of animals. Right. And they had these seven adorable little chickens and then summer rolled around and nobody necessarily wanted to take them. So of course I volunteered. So we started with chickens and then from there.

04:08
I was like, well, my chickens need some neighbors out there. They look a little, they look a little sad. then, then we got quail and then I did a greenhouse and now I have dozens of raised garden beds and now we have bunnies and we just got chukkers.  And so I'll probably like everyone else's. Um, you're just always adding something and always doing the next thing on your homestead.  Yeah. It's one of the best things about it. I don't know what a chukker is. They're a little, little game birds. They're called chukker partridge. They're a little bit bigger than a quail.  Um,

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brown, they've got a little black ring around their neck.  My husband used to hunt them um growing up and now we're just going have an easier way to do that because we'll just walk out to the backyard.  Don't have to hunt, just have to acquire. Exactly.  So chicken math quickly led to homosteading math is what you're telling me. Yes it did. With of course a side of sourdough because that has to come with it too. Yeah  I wasn't going to talk about sourdough today but you brought it up.

05:06
I have sourdough  starter in my fridge. It's been in my fridge for a month  because I made it and it was doing great and I was like, I'm not  going to make bread right now. So I stocked the jar in my fridge and I really haven't looked at it since. And because you said it, now when I go downstairs, I'm going to have to take it out and make sure it's not dead. I have never put mine in the fridge. I know people do that. I've just never...  I've always been afraid that that's going to kill it.

05:36
So I probably, you know, I make as many discard recipes that I do actual bread, just because I'm like, I gotta do something to keep it going. Yeah. My husband, part of the reason I got stuck in the fridge is because my husband makes yeast breads and he's really good at it. Yeah. And therefore three or four weekends in a row, he had made four loaves of yeast bread every weekend. So we had bread that was already made in the freezer and I was like, eh.

06:03
I'm not even going to attempt to make the third loaf of my life of sourdough right now.  So I put it in the fridge and I guess as long as it doesn't have orange or pink mold on it, it's still viable. think so. I think it just gets that layer of stuff on top and you pour it off and then... Yep. And just add some more stuff to it.  So I got to check that today  and I honestly don't want to because that means that... I didn't mean to just add to your to-do list.

06:31
My to-do list today is basically the podcast recording with you, but  I really should check. really should. uh So do you have land or are you an urban homesteader? We have about an acre, just a little over an acre. And I mean, technically we're within city limits, here we're very, I mean, we could walk and we're outside of it. We're so close to the edge. So like we don't have a ton of space, but eh I feel like really maximize.

07:00
the area that we have. have everything kind of right next to each other, not super spread out. Definitely still have room for more animals. I've been telling my husband I want goats or I want pigs or I want something else. And so far he is not super on board yet. Doesn't seem to have a problem if I add any type of birds that I want. But as soon as it has four legs, then it's more of a discussion. Is it because he's afraid he'll get more invested in a four-legged critter because they don't have feathers?

07:28
Maybe I mean, he grew up with this kind of stuff, right? He, you know, showed pigs he had all this kind of stuff. So it's not as new to him as it is to me and the boys. So I think he's just, you know, maybe not as excited about doing it again, per se.  He did say that about the bunnies when we first got the bunnies, because we were given them as meat rabbits. em We have since kind of transitioned more into pet bunnies because they happen to be just so adorable. em But it's like, I get it. I mean, I think if we bought

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a pig knowing that we're going to raise it for consumption, then it's different than if we buy a pet and then, you know, keep it as a pet.  Yeah. Yep. Absolutely.  So, um,  when you decided you wanted to get into this,  did you talk to your friends about it?

08:19
Well, not necessarily, maybe a little, but we don't necessarily have people who were super close with that are doing the exact same thing. We have friends who have had chickens or have had ducks who coincidentally no longer have chickens or ducks, but that didn't deter me. So I was determined to do it regardless. Okay. The reason I ask is because when my husband and I had the chance to start looking for a homestead,

08:46
like land as we lived on a 10th of an acre lot for over 20 years.  When we made the offer on the place that we've lived at for six years in August now,  we waited until we knew the offer was accepted to tell people.  the reaction on all the people that we told faces, this terrible grammar, sorry,  was the same.  It was shock.  It was denial. And then it was like, what the hell?

09:16
Why? What is it? I mean, maybe it's just not as common. Where you because I feel like even in  our little neighborhood, we're kind of a little afterthought. And I wouldn't even call it subdivision. em I mean, in the morning, I hear probably seven other roosters like everybody has something. There's sheep down the road that sometimes end up in our driveway. Like around here. I feel like it's just everybody has something.  I don't know the answer to your question. And I really don't know.

09:44
on a lot of levels because we had been growing a garden in our backyard for years. m a lot of produce came out of that little tiny backyard. And we had been growing peonies and flowers in the front garden.  We had gotten chickens when the bird flu went through that first time.  And  we didn't even know who were allowed to have chickens, but I was like, I don't want to be without eggs. getting chickens. We had four chickens.

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We had always said to our friends that if we had the opportunity that we would find a place that had more land and we would move.  I don't think they believed us because  no one,  no one was un- Really?  Everyone was surprised. Interesting. And to this day, I think that they still think we're insane.

10:40
Well, they can think that until you give them eggs and produce and bread and all the things that are coming from your homestead. Yeah. And the other thing that I've said a lot on this podcast is that  I grew up with my parents growing a garden, with them heating their house with a wood stove, which meant that we as kids helped with the splitting and the hauling of the wood for the wood stove.  My mom canned, my mom froze extra produce in the

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the freezer in the basement. I didn't know that homesteading was anything weird. I thought everybody did it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's interesting. So when I first started this, again, I said we're fairly new to this, but I made a point of asking people who who did classify themselves as a homestead, like when when do you consider yourself a homestead and when are you just, you know, I have a hobby or I have a backyard garden or I have some chickens. And a lot of people were saying it's more of a

11:39
Like homesteading is a state of mind. If you feel like you are doing this because you're wanting to, you know, better the quality of food that you are feeding to your family and that kind of thing. So it's interesting to think about when people consider it an actual homestead.  Yes. And for me, because of the way I was brought up,  I always equated homesteading and prepping and  not tinfoil hat prepping, but just being prepared. Yeah. Yep.

12:07
Cause if you grow up in Maine where I grew up and you know what winters are like in Maine,  sometimes you literally can't get out of your driveway for a week because it's too icy or the plows can't get to where you are and you're stuck. If you're out of toilet paper or out of milk or out of coffee, you're out. Yeah. Yeah. So  I didn't know that, that people actually only bought

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things every day that they needed and  didn't prepare for the occasional emergency. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So it's just the whole thing is so  nuanced, I think. Yeah, yeah, and just in different, different where you are in different. I mean, I  take a homestead here in Texas versus somewhere.

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We're doing probably different things, maybe the same basic, you we have animals, we have the garden, but the way, what we're planning for and what we're growing and saving and prepping is probably completely different, just geographically too. um I think to a point, yes. And I think part of that is that you are lucky enough to live in an area where you probably have persimmons that grow, persimmon trees. Oh, I don't know. I don't have any. We are... um

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I have a love-hate relationship with trees and getting them to grow. And sometimes I'm convinced West Texas doesn't have  the ability to grow trees. I don't know.  I honestly have to look and see if we have any around here. I don't know. Well, I know in the South that there are fruits that grow that will not survive Minnesota. Oh, for sure. Like,  poppa trees, persimmon trees, anything kind of tropical-ish. Yeah. They won't.

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make it here because they can't survive the cold freeze in the winter. Yeah. And for the longest time, I thought that peaches wouldn't grow here, but we have two peach trees and we got peaches two falls ago. So I don't want to jinx myself, but I might actually get peaches this year. So I planted trees a year and a half ago now, peach, pear, apple, and plum. And we got flowers on everything. I was so excited. And then, you know, good old West Texas windstorm comes through and

14:28
All of the flowers are gone on everything except for the peach trees. But we do actually have a couple that provided they stay on. um We should actually,  should be able to enjoy at least a peach this year.  I hope you get to because there is no better peach than the peach that you grow yourself. um I am really trying to. There's some things that I've, it's funny, uh my youngest, my six year old, he's more into everything in the garden because he  eats everything, which is great.

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Like he'll go out and I mean, if there's two or three tomatoes that are ready, like they won't make it out of the garden. Like he just eats everything. But so he's, he has asked for, he would like an apple, he would like peaches and he would like some strawberries. And it's like the things that he has asked for are the ones that I struggle with the most. I don't know how many strawberry plants I have killed at this point. And it's like, I don't know why. I just, there's some things that just, they do not do well in my backyard.  Huh.

15:21
Yeah, strawberries are hard because birds love them. So you may think that you're bad at strawberries, but it may just be that the birds are getting them before you see them. I'm going to go with that, but I don't know if it's true.  It's like we have elderberry trees here and elderberry is a really, really good thing to have growing on your property. And there's two and they grow wild.

15:46
And every spring they bloom and they're beautiful. And I'm like, yes, elderberries. have not, I've not gotten to them yet. And part of the reason I haven't gotten to them yet is because birds adore elderberries. And I said to my husband this winter, said, is there any way we could put like bird netting over the And he said, if I had a really good fire truck with a really good ladder. Yep.

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And I laughed and I said, well, how much would one of those cost us? he went, no, just rent one. sure.  Yeah. He said, he said, what? And I said, I'm kidding.  He said, you are so deadpan sometimes. I don't know if you're joking. uh Maybe we can get one of the firemen to drive down and help. And he was like, they're not going to do that.  said, yeah.

16:39
So I think that my chances of  getting elderberries for anything are probably slim to none, but it was really neat to find out we had elderberry trees on our property. Yes.  And the birds were here long before I was, so. So  I you gotta let them have them.  Yup. I mean,  I feel like we  as humans have stolen so many things from nature.

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that if I have to sacrifice elderberries to the birds, I'm just giving back things that were stolen from them a long time ago. That's true. That's fair. And I'm not going to die if I don't get the elderberries. It's fine. However, my husband is going to go out and cut asparagus tonight because our asparagus patch is going  crazy.  That's one that I  would like to do too. I haven't done that one yet. The new ones we've added this year, just because I feel like...

17:33
I mean, tomatoes do great. We do so many herbs. Um, the main thing I like to do is alufas. I'll talk with those in a second, but, I really, really just wanted to grow a side dish, a nice side dish to go with a quail dinner. Right. And it's just like, I, I, I failed at a couple of different variations of green beans last year. Um, so this year I did Brussels sprouts, which are doing great. And then, um, and other new one was art to carts, which are actually,

18:00
Yes, that's one thing you probably can grow like crazy. We've tried. They do not do well here. See, I thought they were even considered as well, cool weather, maybe not cold weather, cool weather, because like we, I think I planted them too late last year, the Brussels sprouts and they never quite, they didn't get the actual Brussels sprout before it got too hot for them. And then the leaves just died. So I planted them much, much, much earlier this year. So hopefully we'll have a good harvest of those. Yeah. Brussels sprouts and artichokes, a no go.

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We have tried. just never do anything. Well, I'm fingers crossed on those. But the other one that we that I love to do did them last year is luffa gourds. How long how long is the growing time for those from seed to ready? Well, it did. So we don't I didn't eat them like you can't eat them. I know you can. And that's like 90 days or something like that. But then if you just let them go about 120 plus days and let them

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you know, dry on the vine and then, you know, get them as luffa sponges. That's what I did. So I let them all dry, which worked really, really well here. And because it's like, it's perfect. You literally plant this plant and your whole goal is to just let it die on the vine. So it's really hard to mess up. So it's great. um But then let them all dry and then peel them. And then I actually cut them apart and then I sewed them all onto,  I crocheted.

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a little rectangle with 100 % cotton yarn and then sewed the loofah onto the other side. And then for Christmas last year, everybody got homemade loofah sponges. So it was the perfect little growing a gift.  is a great idea. I love that.  See, this is the other thing about homesteaders. We're all very creative  or we're curious enough to go find the people who are creative and copy their ideas. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I honestly didn't. think for the longest time I wasn't really, you know, a loofah, I think growing up having a loofah sponge, was one of those

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nylon, know, puffy ball things. I wasn't thinking actual natural loofahs. And then I just, I think it was probably even TikTok or Instagram or something. I saw a lady talking about growing them and I was like, you know what, I'm going to give that a try. And they actually do really, really well. If we wanted to grow them here, we would have to get them planted in February. Yeah. Like in a container in the house to get them started and then transplant them.

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Yeah, I have seen one. So there was a lady I watched. She was in, I think, Michigan, and she grew them into where about the time that they were starting to get a frost, things, they weren't quite dry yet, right? They weren't brown. So she picked them and she slowly dried them in her oven, like the lowest possible setting door open. She had a little convection fan thing  and just naturally or not actually, guess, dried them that way. So maybe that would have to be have to do it when it's cold.

20:49
Yeah, I don't know, because we've talked about it. But my husband for some reason just isn't into this whole loofah idea. And he's the gardener. And I meant I meant to just order some seeds back last fall so I could just hand them to him this spring. I completely forgot about it. Next time you decide I'll just I will send you some I'll put them in an envelope. I'll mail them to you because that's the thing is you get one loofah plant and then you get a bunch of loofahs from that one plant and each loofah

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has between 50 to 100 seeds in it. So I mean, I have so many seeds. I have sent them to friends all over. I sent them to some to my parents in South Dakota, sent them to my sister, sent them to friends in Minnesota. They're going to try them this year. So I'll let you know how those go. I've sent them to Utah even, so all over. So we'll see what state has the best return. I will message you my email address and maybe send me. You could be my lupus seed dealer.

21:47
Absolutely. I'm on it. So the other fun thing that you do is you have the fluffy bunny rabbits. I do. have fluffy, well, have lop-eared and lion head. have both. And these are the ones where, you know, I've said they were some friends got them and they were given them as meat rabbits. And technically lop-eared, can be dual purpose, you know, pet meat rabbits. And it's just like, once you go out there and I play with them every single morning and I'm like, man, they're just, we're just going to be in the pet rabbit.

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trade now because I don't know. They're just so darn cute.  Yeah, for the listener, if you guys want to see the cutest baby bunnies ever, you've got to go to H &H Homestead on Facebook  and scroll down a couple posts and there are the most beautiful fluffy bunny babies I've ever seen. Oh, thank you. Well, and they, it's it's funny. We have, we have about three different age, ages now, cause we've got the ones that just opened their eyes. And then from another mom, she had a litter, which they probably are about.

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five, six months now, but they're like the middle fluffy stage. And then of course we have the parents, but um yes, they are definitely fluffy, adorable.  They require a little bit of maintenance. Like I probably brush the bunnies more often than I brush my dogs because they're not really the shedding type, but um I go out there with a little brush and I am, so the lion head are part Angora. So I am brushing them and I'm saving their fur and I have it in a little bag and then I will,

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Um, wash it with the wool that I have from a friend's sheep. And then I'm going to spin some, spin some yarn this fall and see if I can't make something out of it. Are you lucky enough to have a spinning wheel or do you just have the little, um, don't know, a little thing, a little one. then, I mean, if I, if I really get in, if this becomes my next new big hobby, then maybe I'll consider, um, a big spinning wheel one, you know, with the foot pedals and stuff like that. Otherwise just a little tabletop battery powered ones.

23:43
Yep. Hang on one second, Ashley. Yeah.

23:49
I had a tickling back of my throat and I didn't want to cough in your ear, sorry. You're good. If you ever do look into getting an actual spinning wheel, I would recommend that you go and look for a used one because I looked years ago at how much a new one is. Oh, yeah. They were exorbitant then. I don't even know how much they cost now. Yeah. Yeah, that's for sure. I remember...

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Years ago I watched, I think it was the first time I ever saw someone using one of the, I mean the  big giant ones,  know, on the, they probably sit three, four feet off the floor and she's working it with both of her foot pedals and I can imagine those ones are very, very expensive. Yes. And I am fascinated by them because the- So fun to watch.  Yeah. The, I don't know what the word is,  the mechanics of it.  like, how did somebody figure out how to make these things? Cause they've been around forever. Yeah.

24:47
Yeah, it's very fun. Yeah. See, I figured that's, you know, I'm just going to have to, I feel like I'm always adding a new craft or a new something until, know, last year was sewing of these leafy sponges. And now I feel like it needs to be crocheting of something, even though, I mean, I might crochet a hat or ear warmers or things that I don't really need in West Texas, but we do occasionally get one week of a little bit of cold weather. So I might use it then. People love scarves. That's true.  Even.

25:17
Even if it's Florida, people love scarves. That's true. My daughter lives in Florida. It got kind of chilly this winter for a little bit in Florida. Yeah. And she messaged me and she was like, wish I knew how to crochet. She said, you know how to crochet. And I said, do you need a scarf? And she was like, I don't really need one. She said, but I feel like it's, she said, having grown up part of my life in Minnesota, she said, I feel like I should be sitting with a cup of tea.

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and crocheting because I watched you do it. And I was like, you know, it's pretty easy. And I showed you how. Mm hmm. Yeah. She said, I think I'm just romanticizing it. I said, you really don't want to do it. You just wanted to talk about it. I like it. No, I love to crochet. That's something where I like to sit, you know, sit in the evening when we're watching TV or something and I crochet something I can't. I can multitask and crochet without having to think about the stitches and just kind of, you know, repetition.

26:15
Knitting, have to actually read a pattern or focus. I crochet and I do Tunisian crochet and that's really fun to do.  That's what I did with the backs for the sponges was Tunisian crochet. Nice.  I despise knitting. I tried to learn when I was like 13.  My mom knitted and I was like, show me how.  She taught me the whole knit  one, purl two, whatever.

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Yeah, and and I just  it was way too  personickety and I hated the sound of the needles clicking which is really weird. That's funny I do I find that relaxing and then I even I usually have like long fingernails or something and then like the sound of the fingernails with the knitting I don't know it's one of those I find that like a relaxing so it's so fun. Yeah, I don't know and I mean

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I may be on the autism spectrum. I don't know. I've never been diagnosed, but there are just certain things that drive me insane.  Knitting needle clicking was one of the things that just, was like, God, I hate that noise. don't know why. So if you ever do take up knitting, you're going to do it while wearing earplugs or like loud music blaring.  I'm just not going to take up knitting. will crochet. Do you do any other other crafts too? um outside of crochet? ah

27:37
I love to cook. Oh, same. Yep. So I don't know if that's a craft, but I do. love to cook. I for me. I used to like to do, I don't know what it's called, not embroidery, cross stitch. Oh, cross stitch. Yeah. I don't do a cross stitch if it has like the image already printed on there. I don't know that I have the patience sometimes for counted cross stitch. Like I just want to look and match colors and do it that way.

28:05
Yes. And what's really weird is knitting is too persnickety for me, but counting cross stitch was really easy. Really? Oh my goodness. Okay. Yeah. Very weird. I haven't done cross stitch in a long time. I got into it when I was probably 32, 33. Yeah. And I'm, 56 now. And I, I made, I found out that my mother-in-law really loved butterflies. Yeah.

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And so I found these two really gorgeous butterfly cross-stitch kits and I made them for her and I gave her one for her birthday and one for Christmas.  And then she passed away uh back  just the beginning of COVID and she didn't pass away from COVID, she passed away from something else.  And we were packing up the house and she had those cross-stitches hanging on her walls and I have them, I put them away because I put a lot of hours into those things.

29:01
Yeah. And I just, don't know, I think I'm, I'm past my cross stitching phase. Yeah.  I can see that. Okay. Well, the next thing, you know, just, mean, my other big one is, is sewing and quilting. I love all things sewing and quilting. Yeah. I never got into quilting. My mom, my mom loves to quilt. Yeah. Like,  loves it. And she's 79 years old. And I think the last quilt she made was two years ago. Oh, wow. Good.

29:31
You just, think once you start, you just never stop. I mean, I've been sewing since I was about six. My mom taught me and then picked up quilting later,  probably  after high school. And then, I mean, I've taught both sewing and quilting for probably 15 plus years now. I designed patterns,  published patterns. was on a quilt show. Me and my friend did a couple episodes or couple seasons of a quilt show. And then I sew anything and everything. And my first sewing book actually just came out.

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last November. um So yeah, I love to do  all things related to fabric.  you have a website, Ashley? Not a personal one, just the Facebook page. um So where's your book available? uh So Amazon is the big one. So it's 500 Sewing  Tips, Tricks, Techniques and Hacks. um But a bunch of, know, it's a small little quilt shop.  have them. uh Barnes and Noble has them. But Amazon, think, is just the

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easiest way for everything, for all shopping.  That's exciting. I didn't realize you had a book. Yeah, thank you. It was fun.  I've taught both sewing and quilting for years and done it either in person or em I probably have hundreds of hours of just short little clips or little tip videos or long form classes. And so it was  kind of fun to um do the written version of that.

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Like I feel like it's very easy to, I think it's easy to teach someone like when you're physically sitting there next to them, right? And showing them how to do something and explaining something. But it was a very different process to actually put it into words of like trying to make it a cohesive, understandable book. But it was a lot of fun. Nice. You are very talented and you're very busy. And you give me hope because this homesteading thing is not a fad.

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Yeah, yeah. is a way of life. And I agree. As the world gets scarier and crazier, I feel like the people that are practicing homesteading skills, skills, schools, uh-huh, skills are the ones who are basically going to save us. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like, we won't necessarily need the big box stores and things like that. We will be able to do and provide for ourselves.

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So I'm trying to get everybody on board who wants to be on board because  we need the world to survive because honestly,  nature doesn't give one flying F about human.  No,  nature would go on just fine if all humans disappeared tomorrow.  Absolutely. And I don't want  to disappear. No, no, no, it does. But I think, you know, you're saying, some people don't want to fully embrace full on home setting per se. But it's like if if somebody just picks

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one thing that they're into. Like maybe you only want chickens, you don't want to do anything else. Or maybe you only want to grow this one specific thing. But if everybody has just the one thing that they're doing, then everybody altogether, we're still going to have everything we need.  Exactly.  All right, Ashley, this was really fun and I appreciate your time.  People can find you at H &H Homestead on Facebook. Yes, absolutely. Are you on Instagram?  No, I probably should, but I'm not yet. Okay.

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All right. As always, people can find me at thetinyhomesteadpodcast.com.  Ashley, I hope you have a great day. Thank you. You too. Thank you.