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00:55
Oh, you're welcome. Thank you for taking the time. I appreciate it.  I was just going to close Facebook, your Facebook page because it was still open.  Do you have an Australian Shepherd? We actually have two of them puppies.  We got them the first weekend in January.  Two males.  One is Remington, one's Winchester and we love them. They are wonderful dogs.

01:21
Yeah, I happen to see the always on guard even if it's watching a pesky cat post and I was like that looks just like my Maggie because we have one too.

01:32
We are in the process of trying to train them to herd cows and chickens. uh One is more  relaxed. He likes just to stay  on the porch and watch, but the other one has the instinct and the drive to really herd.  So we have to watch him a lot. He's very good about keeping the chickens across the fence where they belong, but  he likes to nip a little bit. And that is okay for a cow,  but a chicken is much more tender. So we're working on that right now.

02:04
I wish you all the luck in the world with that. Our Maggie doesn't really have a farm job. Her job is watchdogging for the home. And uh the thing we've learned in the five years we've had her is that she is not a dog that knows how to fetch. She loves to chase things, but if we say bring it back, she will not bring it back.

02:28
That sounds very familiar. Yup. And are yours full size Australian Shepherds or are they the smaller ones?

02:39
They are full size. Once they're grown, they'll be full size. Okay, Maggie's a small standard. weighs like 36 pounds.

02:53
Okay, so how is the weather in West Virginia this morning? It is sunny and cold in Minnesota.

03:01
We are supposed to have 78 degrees today. We had rain last night, a thunderstorm moved through. It rained really, really hard. Then this morning it was 52 degrees and we had a little bit more rain. It stopped, a few more showers. Right now it's 66. We're supposed to have 78. But this is a roller coaster. We've had some nice weather and now tonight it is supposed to be 37 and tomorrow we're supposed to have snow.

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And then it's supposed to shoot back up to the 50s, 60s.  And then next week on Tuesday, we are supposed to have 17 at night. So we are just up and down with the weather. But this is a small taste of spring and we want to get out and do all kinds of things, but we have a lot of mud, which is okay because we needed the moisture. We are very dry. So that worked out to get more rain. um We're really anxious for spring to come when you have warm days like this and you get out and you're able to work a little bit. And then

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you have snow again. So that's a let down,  but we are on a roller coaster ride.  Yeah, we're supposed to get a little bit of snow every day through Sunday this week here. And I'm like, okay,  um, I guess I can handle it because hopefully it'll be the last of it for the  winter. Hopefully.  Um, so tell me a little bit about yourself  and morning  sun homestead.

04:28
So my husband and I, um well when we got married of course we ate like everyone else.  You know, was fast food and quick dinners and things like that.  And then over time once we had our children we realized that that wasn't the life we wanted to continue. So we started to dig in  and um grow in our own food. And we have branched off from that and now we do our own meats. You know, of course we have our own eggs.  The girls are a tremendous help.

04:58
They  all are on the bandwagon with us, so to speak. So it really helps to have their help. They know how to do everything, which is a huge help now that as we're getting older, you just don't have as much energy. And uh when I look back, I wonder how I did it all when they were small. I guess it was just all willpower and grit. But that's how we got started. We just got tired of eating all the processed stuff, feeling bad, waking up with inflammation, you know,

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bags under our eyes and that sort of thing and decided to pick a healthier path  and it's worked out well and we are so glad that we decided to do that. It has made a major difference in our lives.

05:43
Awesome, and I'm glad you just said all that because I'm gonna do my my public service announcement early in the podcast episode today  if you live in America right now, and you don't know how to cook  learn and If you don't grow anything to eat start a plant this year  try growing something even if it's herbs on your windowsill  and

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get to know your local producers, your local farmers, because if the supply chain should happen to go down again,  it's good to be able to know who to buy from locally. That's my public service announcement.  And there is so much truth in that.  know, local is best. If you can't grow it yourself, the next level would be local. That way, the way I look at it,  have, we milk cows, so we have raw milk and it's became legal now to sell raw milk in West Virginia.

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And I would never sell a gallon of milk that I felt my family wouldn't drink. And I think that a lot of people that are local feel the same way about their produce or their meat, their eggs, whatever they may be selling. I feel that if they wouldn't feed it to their family, they're probably not going to try to sell it to you. I know I wouldn't. Hopefully that's how most producers are.  But the big corporations really don't care. They will send us whatever.

07:04
And because it doesn't matter to them, it's all one big connection with pharmaceuticals and big farms and our health.

07:14
Absolutely yes.  Yes, yes, yes, you are absolutely right. uh I,  how do I say this?  We grow a garden and we have chickens, partly because it's fun,  but we're not doing it for funsies. We're doing it to feed ourselves and feed our community, if that makes sense at all.

07:39
Yes, it most certainly does. um I'm assuming from the comment that you made, must also sell any additional eggs that you have and uh garden produce you give away. Right, and we do that if we have extra produce to older people. um There's a lot of older people that used to eat healthy. This was not...

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like a trend, this was the normal way of life, this is how they always did it, and now they're just not able to get out there and do it, and we will give them produce from our garden em just because  that's what we want to do. If we can help someone out, that's what we do, but it sounds like your family does the same thing, and that's wonderful. uh We need more of that in America.

08:23
Yes, we do. need everybody who has a talent. And by the way, everyone has a talent.  It doesn't matter what it is. If you sing, then sing to your kids or sing to your friends. It makes them feel good. um If you're good at writing, write a story. It makes people feel good. If you're good at growing things, feed people. Everyone has a talent. You just have to figure out what it is.

08:50
Yes,  you're exactly right. God gave us all a talent. We're all here on a purpose.  We just have to sometime research and dig deep to find it, but it's  Yes,  and uh yes, we grow a hundred foot by fifty foot or 150 by a hundred foot.  I don't know the dimensions. My husband does. He's the one that does it.  Produce garden, farm to market garden, and we sell at our farm stand and we sell at the farmer's market in town in the summertime.

09:21
And we mostly have chickens because we don't want to buy eggs at the store, but because we always have more chickens than we can keep up with. We sell the eggs too, because when the bird flu comes through, people are very happy to get their eggs at $5 a dozen from our farm stand. Yes. Yes, I'm sure they are.

09:43
So  I found you on Facebook and I am absolutely smitten with your Facebook page. I am thinking of you in my head. Your nickname is the Homestead Hack Queen because you have all the tips and tricks on your Facebook page. People, if you want to learn about homesteading,  go look at Mary Ann's Facebook page. Why are you doing a Facebook page full of homestead hacks? What's your motivation?

10:12
Well, I like to teach people what I know. uh I feel that knowledge is power.  And if we can teach more people how to do dry mixes or how to can, how to provide for their self more and for their family, they're less reliant on the system.  And therefore, we have more power as people for our nation. And when you can take care of yourself, you're much better off.  And with my hacks and things that I'm trying to teach people,

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I feel that a good stock pantry is so important. And if you're able to do that, then you're able to survive a lot of things. And when we think of rainy days, we think of maybe a nuclear attack or something to that extent. It doesn't have to be like that. It can be a blizzard. It can be you lose your job. It can just be that a sickness has come through your home  and  the flu this year is really bad. A lot of people in our community are sick. But you know, if you just have a jar of soup to open,

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That is going to be so convenient when you're so sick you can hardly stand up but your children still needs to be fed.  So, you know, there's a lot of different scenarios that we can look at and that's why it's so important to be able to have all these hacks and know a knowledge of how to can, how to preserve, how to grow.  Eventually, that is a complete circle and it comes back and you're able to provide your family with nutrition meals on the table.

11:38
Yes.  Amen, sister.  I  mentioned to you before we started recording that I saw your post about the homemade cough drops.  I have a story you might get a kick out of. Back when my youngest was probably eight or 10, I don't know, he was young. uh I had gone to the store because he was sick and I'd gone and gotten orange juice and cold medicine and I didn't get cough drops on the list. Therefore, I didn't buy any.

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And I realized it the minute I unpacked the groceries and I was like, what do I have? How can I make cough drops? I had honey, I had sugar and I had the other things the recipe called for. And I was like, I'm going to make homemade cough drops. It'll probably be better for him. And he'll probably think it's candy, which means that he will like them. And I made homemade cough drops. I was so disappointed in myself that I didn't put cough drops on the list, but I was so proud of myself for making them.

12:38
Yes, because I can relate to them.

12:44
Yup, I couldn't believe it. He was standing there waiting for the cough drop package to come out of the bag. And I was like, I completely forgot. And he was like, Mom, you know how when kids are actually disappointed in you, it just breaks your heart? It was that kind of mom. And I was just like, I'm a better mom than this. I am going to do something I've never done. I'm going to make a curative for my kids.

13:15
And that's great that you went out of your comfort zone. I just think a lot more people need to do that because  a lot have the I can't attitude. You can't. It's just the willpower to do it.  And does everything I make turn out? Absolutely not. That was my second batch of cough drops. The first ones failed miserably. They would not harden.  So I just dug through, found a different recipe, and this one worked. This was an Amish recipe  with blackberry. uh They called for a juice. So

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just made my own juice. had frozen blackberries in the freezer. I took them out  and I poured boiling water over it, let them set in that for 10 minutes, and then I strained them really well and squeezed it all through cheesecloth.  So sometimes you just have to make do with what you have.  I know many during the depression, there was a saying of make do, wear it out, use it up or do without. And that's kind of what I try to stick with. We have to use what we have.

14:10
We just can't say can't. We gotta do it. And that's great that you took the initiative and you did it. And that's what we all need to do.

14:20
Yes.  And  I have been kind of pushing my husband about eating leftovers because  he's the kind of guy who would like a different dinner every night. And I'm the kind of girl who likes to cook big and  money just keeps getting tighter and tighter with inflation. So I finally have him convinced that leftovers taste better or the dinner tastes better the second night.

14:48
And we have literally been eating the same thing two nights in a row.  And he said to me the other day, said, you know, this is actually better the second day. So I'm winning the fight here at my house. That's great.  That's great. And yes, mean, leftovers are important. But you know, another thing you could do is  one thing I did a lot when the girls were younger was at the end of the week, I just made a whatever stew.

15:12
Sometimes it didn't turn out so well, but sometimes it was really good. So whatever was leftover, I put in there. But yes, leftovers, that's a great idea of what you're doing.

15:24
Yeah, and  I have always been a leftovers girl because I was raised that way. And my mom used to make this fabulous  venison stew. And I swear to you, it tasted better the second day. I don't know why, but it did.

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think that's the way with chili also. That's how we feel. If chili sets a couple days, it just gets better. But there's a lot of soup and stews that are like that. And it's just trying to get people to try them. And then once they do, they  realize, yes, it does taste better the second day.

16:01
Yeah, it's really weird. think it's because the flavors have a chance to hang out and get to know each other. That's how I see it in my head. That's a great explanation.

16:13
So what do you have for animals on your homestead? You said you have animals. We do. We have numerous chickens, uh well 25 chickens that lay eggs and then we have ducks. uh We think that we might be leaving that market just because  they're not real productive in the winter. We have muskogees and they were supposed to lay throughout the winter.  This year they haven't.

16:38
Now they do breed  very rapidly and we also butchered the duck meat. We wasn't crazy about it. We love chicken, but the duck was kind of, it was different.  We also have two milk cows.  And of course, when they calve, we usually butcher the calves or we sell a calf and then butcher the other one once it's raised up so far. uh The girls have a horse  and we raise our own pigs.

17:07
not from birth. We buy them  usually at 50 pounds and then we raise them into feeder hogs and butcher them in the fall.  And we also do meat chickens that we get  and they're supposed to come this year the first of May. We have a chicken tractor that we move around the yard and then  usually about 12 weeks we butcher them.  They're on a  grass diet  so they take a little bit longer but  even

17:34
You know people say they butchered in eight weeks. Ours would not be ready in eight weeks and I think factory farms do it in four to six weeks.  So without the hormones they just don't grow like that. So ours is longer and then we butcher them as well  and we have four dogs  and we have three cats  and I think that's the end of the zoo.

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I have a question. Do you coach people on homesteading because you are  a  great source of information? No, I mean, a lot of people ask us questions and I'm very willing to give information but as to and a lot of people have said, you know, you should do classes and that sort of thing. But no, I don't. I don't. I'm always willing.  But I  don't do that. If someone asked, I would be helpful. But as a side gig, no, I don't.

18:31
Well, if you ever decide you want to, you're gonna be fantastic at it, because you have  all the skills, ma'am.

18:39
Thank you, that was a kind compliment.

18:45
I don't lie. So it was more than a compliment. was truth. You are brilliant. I love what you're doing. um You have girls. How many girls do you have and how old are they?  We have four.  The oldest one is 19  and she is a CNA  and she doesn't live at home anymore. She has moved on to a city. I'm not sure how she adjusts to that, but that's what she does.  And then we have

19:12
an 18 year old, she babysits  and she still lives at home.  And then we have a 16 year old  and she works at a local diner  washing dishes and that sort of thing. now remember they've all been homeschooled as well.  And then we have a 14 year old and she stays at home and gets to help mom with all the boring things.  But anyway, they've all been homeschooled, they're all doing very well and we are proud of the young ladies that they have become and are becoming.

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Okay. So did they ever know anything other than homesteading and homeschooling growing up? No, they were homeschooled from kindergarten  on. They've never been to public school and we have homeschooled.  the older two, weren't  into the homesteading as much uh as the later two. They don't know any other life other than homesteading. The older two,  yeah, they, you know,

20:12
We ate the processed food and did all that when they were littler, but they were so young I'm not sure they remembered.

20:19
So  most other labs, I'm sorry.

20:25
No, go ahead, most of their lives? Most of their lives they've been raised on the homestead, all of them. And I'm guessing they're pretty healthy young ladies. Yes, they are. They are. you know, no sickness. Occasionally they get a snuffle or a cold or the flu. Our daughter that works at the diner, she just got the flu and the rest of us didn't get it, thank goodness. And that's who the cough drops was for, but...

20:54
You know with lots of liquids and herbal teas and things like that she's made it through except for her energy level but she continued to work because she's a little bit of a miser. So they are relatively healthy no one has any problems. They do great.

21:13
I'm also guessing, correct me if I'm wrong, that they can hold their own in pretty much any situation, especially with boys. Yes,  yes, they don't seem to have any trouble with that at all. I  know from an early age, they went hunting, so we eat a lot of venison, and  if we can get a wild turkey, that sort of thing. So they're very proficient with guns and that sort of thing.

21:41
But yes, they can hold their own with just about anything because once you wrangle calves and you know, you're chasing chickens,  so you've got muscles in your arms, you've got muscles in your legs, and overall you're pretty tough.

21:56
Yes.  One of the things I love the most about girls that are raised on homesteads or farms or ranches  is that they believe in themselves. They have been through hard things and they don't take any shit off anybody. You know? They don't. They don't. They, you know, they always have a comment. As a matter of fact, our youngest,  I was telling my husband that, you know, she has this mouth that, um

22:24
It's probably going to get her in trouble one day, but I don't really know what to say. That's just an issue that I'm kind of letting ride.  She doesn't have it with us  as she does other people, but it just, I don't know. She doesn't mind to tell people what she thinks, which is what we've always taught them, that you need to think for yourself and it's okay to swim upstream when everybody else is swimming down and, you know, staying for what you believe in.  But yeah, they do okay. They're  good.

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good mom, I'm so glad because it is so hard raising kids. And I was raised in the golden age of the  1980s. I'm 56.  1980s were great. And then I raised my kids  in  the  1990s and the early  2000s. That wasn't quite as easy, I don't think, as it was for my mom to raise myself and my siblings.  And I don't envy anyone.

23:21
who's raising little kids right now. It is such a hard world for people to be raising kids and make the kids believe that there's hope that they're gonna have a good life, you know? I agree. I think it's a very difficult time.  Not only is everything so expensive, but we have all kind of propaganda that's trying to be constantly pressed at our children that we don't agree with.  One thing that we've always based our family on is God.

23:49
We feel that if God's in the center, everything else comes together. So we've worked with that. Not saying, you know, my husband and I, sometimes we really get into arguments because he's got to have the last word and I've got to have the last word  and we end up in that kind of tangle. But  yes,  if without God, I'm not sure how everything would come together,  but it is a difficult time. It's very expensive.  And you know, if you're just starting out, it's even worse, but it's possible and we need good children.

24:19
and we need good parents  to raise good children because that's our future of our country and our lives. So it's so important for good people to continue to have good children.

24:32
Absolutely. All right. I have one more question for you because I try to keep this to half an hour.  If somebody  is considering getting into the homestead lifestyle, we'll call it,  what would you suggest that they learn first before they jump in whole hog both feet? What would you suggest that they take unto themselves to learn to start the process?

24:58
think the first thing that they would need to do  is, of course, plan, but if we step past that,  the first thing to do would be to start in the kitchen and just learn how to make bread. I know that sounds very simple, but if you can get your family and you can learn how to make bread and you can get your family to consume that bread,  that's going to make it open for the whole family to want to go deeper. And when you have your family on board, that makes it so much easier for everybody involved.

25:28
Bread is a simple thing and once people taste homemade bread, they're on board to homestead.  I was expecting you to say get chickens, but I like make bread better because make bread,  if you screw it up,  nothing dies.  Right,  Chickens are a great thing, but you know, that takes room. It takes a building. It takes time.

25:52
Bread you can do even if you live in a suburb or  if you haven't bought your land, if you don't have your homestead yet.  That's something that you can test the waters. You're not going to kill anything. You're not going to kill anybody. uh It's just a yeast. So that's why I would suggest bread.

26:10
I love it. MaryAnn, this has been so much fun and I'm going to be looking at your Facebook page every morning. I'm adding it into the rotation so that I can smile  every single morning. um Where can people find you? Well, we're on Facebook, obviously. We're also on TikTok and we have a YouTube that we post there. We try to post once a week. It doesn't always happen. So we're at all three social medias that you can find us under Morning Sun Homestead.

26:39
Fantastic.  As always, you can find me at a tinyhomesteadpodcast.com.  MaryAnn,  no joke, this was a joy. Thank you for your time. I appreciate it. Thank you for having us. We were glad to be invited. All right. You have a great rest of your day. Thank you. also.